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While this is about the G70 rather than the G80, it is a definite win for Genesis for the G70 to be Motor Trend/sCar of the Year.
For me the biggest (only?) drawback to Genesis is the lack of dealerships. Even though they have valet/loaner service, it is only good for three years . I keep my cars longer than that.
Also, not too sure I would be comfortable with a "car jockey" driving my car 50+ miles in morning and then evening through rush hour traffic on our very congested interstate.
Ironically, I would drive past 3 Hyundai dealerships before getting to the Genesis one. Right now they can do routine service on a G80, but no warranty work and no valet/loaner service.
 

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Hopefully distinctions such as this will help them to be more widely recognized and accepted as a premium brand. I feel like they are still susceptible to a lot of badge bias even if its for the most part unfounded.
 

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How its COTY rating holds up once the new BMW 3 series is out will be interesting, BMW is a bit behind with outgoing versions.
 

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The new G70 is looking to deliver on many of the areas where the new Stinger fell a bit short. Kia news sports sedan has still managed to do fairly well in its first year, so that's a positive sign for the new models launching under Genesis. Confirms people are looking for alternatives to the segment leaders.
 

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Running costs and upkeep are high on German saloons, especially out of warranty. Due to badge bias, a lot of people overlook the value in something like the Stinger or G70.
 

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Running costs and upkeep are high on German saloons, especially out of warranty. Due to badge bias, a lot of people overlook the value in something like the Stinger or G70.
Hence why you see these moving quick on used lots meanwhile German vehicles are always sitting and collecting dust.

However a German CPO vehicle is also a good option with warranty and in Benz's case CPO'd vehicles get MBCPO Limited Warranty... as you probably guessed it was made to combat concerns like what you've shared.
 

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Hence why you see these moving quick on used lots meanwhile German vehicles are always sitting and collecting dust.

However a German CPO vehicle is also a good option with warranty and in Benz's case CPO'd vehicles get MBCPO Limited Warranty... as you probably guessed it was made to combat concerns like what you've shared.
As the owner of a German car, y'all are mostly correct. They are high maintenance, especially after the warranty. But I have heard the same about Asian cars as well. Biggest problem for all makes is all the technology and gee-whiz gadgets as they age.
As for the badge, even dealers and service people at dealerships will tell you 50% of reason why customers buy the car is for the badge. But with the expectation that the car will perform as it should.
As for resale, I don't see a lot of German cars sitting on lots for very long. If they do it is because the Asian and US cars are far cheaper and move quicker. M-B's for instance have a higher retained value than Genesis, Cadillac and just about any low price or mid-price cars.
As for M-B, warranty support even on CPO's is not 100%. Same old problem that dealer and M-B have to agree that the problem is theirs. They love the No Fault Found solution.
 

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As the owner of a German car, y'all are mostly correct. They are high maintenance, especially after the warranty. But I have heard the same about Asian cars as well. Biggest problem for all makes is all the technology and gee-whiz gadgets as they age.
As for the badge, even dealers and service people at dealerships will tell you 50% of reason why customers buy the car is for the badge. But with the expectation that the car will perform as it should.
As for resale, I don't see a lot of German cars sitting on lots for very long. If they do it is because the Asian and US cars are far cheaper and move quicker. M-B's for instance have a higher retained value than Genesis, Cadillac and just about any low price or mid-price cars.
As for M-B, warranty support even on CPO's is not 100%. Same old problem that dealer and M-B have to agree that the problem is theirs. They love the No Fault Found solution.
Lucky for brands like Genesis there's an increase of people after stealth wealth so even though they might be worth 7-8 figures, there's a real sense of pride in some $50k Korea vehicle at times.
 

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I think the real appeal for these premium Korean products is the fact that they are different from the established norm. There is a sea of BMW's and Mercs on the road and its nice to have the option to drive something different. They just need to prove that build quality and long time reliability is on par.
 

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I think the real appeal for these premium Korean products is the fact that they are different from the established norm. There is a sea of BMW's and Mercs on the road and its nice to have the option to drive something different. They just need to prove that build quality and long time reliability is on par.
The main appeal for Genesis is they offer practically the same thing as BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Lexus, etc. for $10-20,000 less. The original Hyundai Genesis and the current versions used a lot from the M-B, BMW, Lexus playbook.
For me, one of the appealing things about the G80 and G90 are that they still have the traditional stylings that M-B, Lexus and BMW have abandoned in favor of trendy fashions.
 

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Beating the Germans on price, I agree only gets their foot in the door. But none of their models have seen widespread recalls or TSB's and look at the kind of accolades the new G70 has been getting.
 

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Fortunately other automakers have come along and shown what can be done and to what extent.
My favorite so far is Lincoln with their new flaghship sedan that not only lives up to what its predecessor was like but is every bit as relevant to todays needs. In fact, its good enough to make my BMW and Mercedes owning friends finally shop domestic once again.
 
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